The following was posted by
elettaria in
her personal journal; I've been given permission to quote it here. Although the group it discusses is not explicitly dominionist in a political sense, there are some things in the description that are very worrisome (particularly the spiritual-warfare rhetoric). Does anyone know more about this group and whether it has any dominionist connections, or whether it's just an ultra-conservative church?
Being on a fairly restricted diet, for years I've been using the specialist online retailer Goodness Direct. After a while, I noticed this statement on their site.
Back in the 70's a group of Christian friends decided to get together, make flapjack, pack up wholefoods from bulk along with some other healthy goodies, and there began the beginning of Goodness. [...]
Throughout all of these years we maintained our basic Christian ethics. We began life as a group of friends, all taking the same wages, and we continue life as a group of friends all earning the same wages. Yes that's right, all of us from managers to fork lift drivers to packers, we all earn the same wage. Radical isn't it? So radical that the BBC decided to do a programme on us for Working Lunch.
Being committed Christians (see our church's website) means more than just our Sunday faith - to us it is a way of life and it spills out into our company ethics, our dealings with each other, with our suppliers and with you, our customers. It spills out into the products we sell and why we sell them. It means we deal fairly and squarely with everyone.
The website link wasn't there at the time, just some waffle about a Christian charity, but I was vaguely concerned so I rang up and asked if they did any missionary-type work. They told me firmly that they did not. (They lied.) Yesterday I had cause to check that page on their website again, and this time I followed the link to the Jesus Army. Despite their coy suggestion that they are only loosely affiliated with it, they are in fact a part of the Jesus Army, and it's terrifying stuff.
Look at their manifesto, for starters. They practice exorcism of demonic spirits. They believe that women should submit to men, and should have long hair and dress differently from men. They have strong opinions on whom members may and may not marry. They hang onto members' children for dear life.
This was sounding suspiciously cult-like to me, so I ran a Google search. What came up was beyond alarming. As I'd suspected from their manifesto, women aren't allowed to wear trousers or make-up and must be submissive to men, with stories of extremely restricted behaviour. They have an insane focus on celibacy, to the point where even married couples have to sleep in separate beds. They don't just go evangelising, they target extremely vulnerable people, the homeless, drug addicts and mentally ill, and from what I've gathered it's a "convert if you want any help to survive" deal. People who have visited report that they were followed so closely that they weren't even permitted to go to the toilet alone, and that there was enormous pressure to conform, with one journalist being heavily penalised for slipping away from an all-day prayer session to telephone her mother. Everything is communal, including finances, so it doesn't appear that workers are really paid. Well, some sources say that they'll receive their pay if and when they leave the compound, though others say that they're only paid for a few hours a week and forced to do "voluntary" work the rest of the time. There have been sexual child abuse scandals, and ex-members report the beating of children, although it is unclear whether this is still occurring. And oddly, a rather high number of their members have been murdered, though I have absolutely no idea what's going on there.
I am completely horrified to learn where some of my money has been going all these years. If you shop there or know anyone else who does, please pass this on. I'm not telling you where to shop, that's your decision, but I'm urging you to read up on this for yourselves.
April 21 2010, 17:19:23 UTC 2 years ago
I would say what you've described fits at least three criteria of the BITE model, and with the hardcore restrictions on sexual activity, they've at least drawn a bead on the fourth one. Which is enough to convince me that, yes, this group is definitely a cult or at least exhibits cultlike behavior.
I suspect there will be other research info on this showing up shortly ..
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April 21 2010, 17:47:49 UTC 2 years ago
Hold the kids hostage, and the mothers who leave won't go far, and will most likely be back in the compound at some point.
That's about as cold as cold gets. >:(
April 21 2010, 18:37:06 UTC 2 years ago
It is perfectly legal to have armed guards at the edges of a compound, long as they bought those guns legally. It is perfectly legal just to stand there and "take care" of the children while mom does her "errands". If someone claims their kids are being held hostage it's "where's your proof?", even footage of the armed guard thing isn't adequate evidence.
This child hostage-taking is done especially if both parents or there are grandparents associated with the compound - then often only one legal custodian at a time will be allowed out - that way if one objects to the children being held, the other can't corroborate simultaneously with the police the kids are hostages. Also, if one cultist says there's a problem and the other doesn't, then any evidence of abuse on the child gets accused of being the fault of the person who wants to escape the cult, or at least that s/he'd been "complicit".
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(I seem to recall that People's Temple was actually very active in local charity work while they were in SF, to the point where they had a reputation for it. I'm not sure if that was part of Jones' overall strategy with the group or if his power trip evolved after that phase.)
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Just goes to show you humanity can screw *anything* up.
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April 21 2010, 19:56:15 UTC 2 years ago
It's a front of a REALLY nasty Joel's Army cult :(
Not only is this dominionist as hell (the church, that is) but they are pretty explicitly NARasitic to boot. (They are in fact pretty much the ringleaders of the NARasite church network Multiply UK as well as connections to the NARasite group and recruitment front HeartCry. (Of note--both these orgs, and arguably Jesus Army as well, use explicit NAR codephrases in their naming.)Sadly, it appears Goodness Direct and its parent company are front-companies of Jesus Army which is in turn a front of a NARasite congregation called New Creation Christian Community that started out in 1974 (per their website). (Of note, this is a VERY similar relationship to the relationship between Hillsong A/G in Australia (an infamously NARasitic, dominionist, and flat-out coercive church that is the de facto head of the dominionist movement in Oz), Gloria Jean Coffee, and Mercy Ministries (an Assemblies "faith based rehab" front that tends to do things like attempting to cure eating disorders with pentecostal "exorcisms").)
In fact, Jesus Army would appear to have quite the constellation of front companies; it admits that Goodness Direct is run as a front to sucker in environmentally aware consumers and--in a disgusting move--is explicitly taking advantage of people on medically restricted diets (such as for celiac disease, who have severe food allergen sensitivities, and so on). (Yep, there's a cult model for this too--a lot of NARasite groups have gone into MLM-style vitamin businesses as well as occasionally into the dietetic foods market; the Scientologists are well known for their vitamin schemes; and finally the Moonies are known to run (among other companies in their literally thousands of known fronts) a seafood distributor for the sushi market.)
The group in fact appears to be a "generation 2" New Apostolic Reformation group (with "generation 1" being the Latter Rain and Manifest Sons of God movement, the second being that branch of the neopentes from about the 1950s on that branded themselves "charismatics" and attempted mass steeplejacks of mainstream churches and lay ministries that accepted charismatic worship, and "generation 3" being largely those groups descended from C. Peter Wagner's efforts, Rick Joyner's efforts, and the "Third Wave" in NAR circles). The founder would in fact appear to be linked to steeplejacks of Baptist churches.
And they are most definitely a particularly nasty cult--possibly one of the nastiest Joel's Army groups operating in the UK, in fact. More in part 2.
April 21 2010, 19:57:09 UTC 2 years ago
Re: It's a front of a REALLY nasty Joel's Army cult :( (pt 2)
Of particular note of warning--Jesus Army in and of itself is very widely considered a coercive religious group--a frank "Bible-based cult", in fact. (Typical of coercive religious groups, they quite a lot of arse-covering</i> about this--essentially using the "We can't be a cult because we're Christians" argument.Reports from walkaways and survivors--not to mention anti-dominionist evangelical Christians (yes, they exist, and are still some of the best sources for info on just what NARasite groups are pulling)--argue otherwise. No less than four separate exit-counseling pages exist containing info for walkaways--including, notably, a very complete dossier on Jesus Army at Rick Ross Institute. Another warning is that an awareness and walkaway forum site exists; another warning is the fact the Cult Information Centre (of the UK) considers them a group of concern; another is the fact that the Australian culthelp.info also has them listed (this is rare to see such universal coverage by exit counseling groups).
April 21 2010, 19:58:03 UTC 2 years ago
Re: It's a front of a REALLY nasty Joel's Army cult :( (pt. 3)
Not only this, but per a Wikipedia entry with extensive linkage to verifiable sources the group was not only flat-out expelled from the Baptist Union (the federation of Baptist churches in the UK) but its application to join the Evangelical Alliance of the UK resulted in multiple churches threatening to leave--in no small part because of the coercive practices rife in Jesus Army churches as well as the practice of use of "chastening rods" on kids. (In fact, there was an incident not too long ago where a Jesus Army member was in fact jailed for religiously motivated child abuse in relation to his beating of a child with a bamboo rod during an "exorcism". It should also be noted the UK has a far lower tolerance of religiously motivated child abuse, especially after the well-publicised death of Victoria Climbie by "deliverance ministry", and there in fact is a special division of Scotland Yard to investigate "deliverance ministry"-related child abuse as well as wide education of mandatory reporters on the signs of religiously motivated child abuse.)In addition to the abusive use of "deliverance ministry" and known use of frontgroups and deceptive recruitment, there's other aspects of concern. Per their own website they are not only cell-based but (in a rarity, pretty much unknown outside of Jesus People USA or some known cells of the Army of God domestic terrorist network) they also apparently practice communal housing as well; there are at least four pyramidal levels of cells based on level of involvement (this is also similar to the US-based dominionist coercive religious group "The Family"/"Fellowship", recently the subject of a book by walkaway Jeff Sharlet).
So yeah. YOUR FRIEND WANTS TO FIND A NEW SOURCE FOR DIETETIC FOODS YESTERDAY.
April 21 2010, 19:59:41 UTC 2 years ago
Re: It's a front of a REALLY nasty Joel's Army cult :(
And as an aside--please feel free to forward my findings to your friend, feel free to repost them actually. It's important that word gets out about front companies (there's a reason I tell people to stay the fuck away from Hobby Lobby in particular).April 21 2010, 20:09:18 UTC 2 years ago
Re: It's a front of a REALLY nasty Joel's Army cult :(
I'm going ahead and making this a public post for now so I can share it, since this does look like a thing that needs to be made As Public As Possible. Please let me know if this is not OK so I can set it back.April 21 2010, 21:55:33 UTC 2 years ago
Re: It's a front of a REALLY nasty Joel's Army cult :(
I'm good with that, and I've even replied and given a pointer back here and advised folks to read the commentary.April 21 2010, 21:21:15 UTC 2 years ago
Re: It's a front of a REALLY nasty Joel's Army cult :(
I love your in depth writing style and attention to detail on this subject. This community wouldn't be the same with out your contributions both in posts and responses to posts like this one. That said I sometimes have a hard time with the acronyms, Dominionist code phrases, names of various groups, fronts, specific churches of note, ect. Not a complaint at all if there is a fault involved I'm sure it's in my understanding. I often feel as though I'm reading a scholarly masters level dissertation with out a proper understanding of the fundamentals of the subject. Many of the references you make go right over my head. I can usually get the gist of what you are pointing out by googling the term but sometimes I'm still left scratching my head about the finer points.In this instance would you mind explaining what a NARasite is?
Also on a related question, is there a site that could bring me up to speed on all the acronyms, dominionist terminology (Joel's army, steeple jacking, deliverance ministry, that sort of thing) as well as alot of the background? I'm not totally ignorant on the subject but I do realize that currently some of the "lingo" associated with dominionists and the finer points will sometimes go over my head. Could you point me in the right direction?
I'm aware of http://dark-christian.clanxanadu.org/Ma
Any help you can provide would be most welcome.
Thanks again for all you do on here to bring to light what the dominionists are up to and for all the obvious hard work and though you put into your posts and responses.
April 21 2010, 21:54:38 UTC 2 years ago
Re: It's a front of a REALLY nasty Joel's Army cult :(
OK, in this case, NARasite is a term (that was coined originally by one of the Singaporeans fighting back against the attempted steeplejacking of the women's NGO "AWARE") for a person or group that is a member of or actively promoting Joel's Army/New Apostolic Reformation theology.As to Joel's Army itself: I do have a Joel's Army for the Complete Newbie guide of sorts up (I had originally written it for Singaporeans fighting the AWARE steeplejack, and is probably the closest I've ever done to an introductory post on the matter :D). A LOT more has been written since I did that, particularly as a result of Rachel Tabachnick and Bruce Wilson doing some bang-up research. (I'm also working on co-authoring a book with Leah Burton (author of "Theopalinism" and "Close Call") which will also serve in part as a discussion of Joel's Army (and the threat it poses).)
As for "Deliverance ministry" and my concerns, this article and this article sum up best what it is and why there are legitimate concerns.
As to "Steeplejacking"--the term was originally coined by John Dorhauer in his book of the same name (which focused on IRD "cuckoo churches"--cell-churches linked to a dominionist group that are set up as fake "lay ministries" which proceed to "borg" or crowd out the rest of the congregation as the cells grow and multiply--much like a cuckoo (which reproduces by parasitic brooding--laying eggs in other birds' nests not of its own species) crowds out young of another bird's nest). The PRACTICE has been around long before the IRD, however, particularly in Joel's Army-linked churches and congregations. (There's even evidence the "cell church" structure was in part invented based on Bolshevik "people's revolutionary cells" for much the same reason--infiltration and takeover from within; it later got adapted to use in coercive churches as a method of "Big Brother" crowd-control.)
This article and this article discuss steeplejacking of churches as does this article; this article goes into the very early history of the use of "cuckoo church" cell-churches (and this does need to be updated as much more info about The Family/Fellowship and its use of cells, as well as discussion with Campus Crusade founders on this, has since come to light); this article and this article go into the real concerns regarding the intrinsically coercive nature of "cell churches".
(Of note here--"deliverance ministry" and "cell churches" are the two coercive tactics in common use in Joel's Army groups PROVABLY known to result in inpatient hospitalisation for PTSD and worse. The entire continuum of coercive practices at an average Joel's Army church quite often rank these groups as having a higher potential of coerciveness than Scientology.)
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April 21 2010, 20:11:55 UTC 2 years ago
Re: It's a front of a REALLY nasty Joel's Army cult :(
Wow. That's even scarier than I thought.I knew about the Jesus Army background with Goodness, obviously, but I didn't realize just how insidious this cult was as they (obviously) keep a lot of the background stuff hidden.
April 21 2010, 21:29:53 UTC 2 years ago
Re: It's a front of a REALLY nasty Joel's Army cult :(
Of course you didn't - Front Groups go out of their way to play down links to their Parent Cults, and the cults, in turn, use PR, spin and outright lies in order to avoid critical examination. In the end, though, the trail always leads back.This is one party of why D_C exists - To get the info out there. Facts and information are the antibiotics that fight the disease of cultism.
Thanks for bringing this up.
April 22 2010, 01:35:23 UTC 2 years ago
April 22 2010, 07:34:32 UTC 2 years ago Edited: April 22 2010, 07:35:13 UTC
Also,
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http://bit.ly/buGRdD (WIKIPEDIA article on the 12 Tribes).